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« on: October 25, 2007, 03:57:58 AM »

Madam and Steve,

The woman told the man,"be careful what you eat".why said the man?"because the whole world is full of evil"said the woman!
The man sat and thought then said,"my grandmother said we are what we eat".
The woman said,"correct and a child fisrt from the breast,and later when we die,we will swallowed by the earth that feeds us that we ourselfs are made of". 3:17-19.

Gen 1:29   Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food.
 
Gen 1:30   And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.
 
Gen 1:31   God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.
 
Gen 3:17   To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat of it,’

 

“Cursed is the ground because of you;

through painful toil you will eat of it

all the days of your life.
 
Gen 3:18   It will produce thorns and thistles for you,

and you will eat the plants of the field.
 
Gen 3:19   By the sweat of your brow

you will eat your food

until you return to the ground,

since from it you were taken;

for dust you are

and to dust you will return.
 


[1] man came from a woman.

[2] By nature we live/evil.


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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2007, 05:10:52 PM »

wow, you area very busy little guy, arent you?
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« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2007, 07:23:40 PM »

I use to believe that it was woman that came out of man, from a piece of his liver, and man was created from the earth soil.
But Our Father Adam, and our mother Eve disobeyed, and  took no responsibility for their own actions, and so they blamed the snake, and so the snake was cursed with them.
This is why our world is so fucked up.
This is why we have the problems that we do.
It's so easy to blame someone and let that innocent take the punishment.
Humanity was a mistake, what was the up man thinking?
Now we have our children in this world, and out of wet lock.
And all we do is think to ourselves, I fucked up, what was I thinking.
And we are not to blame, we didn't eat off that tree. It is unfair that we share the curse because Adam our father, and Eve our mother.
thee up man should have destroyed them, right then and there.
Kicking them out of the garden, oh yeah it punished them alright,
And yes they were miserable, cause they had to work their asses off.
But then they had kids. . . . .
"Maaaan", I'm so pissed, I don't even wanna  go any further.
But it's like here we are, and we are sufferring, struggling, trying to be strong and not give up on living.
Sometimes we tell ourselves, "fuck, I'm tired, when this all end".
Anyways , I hope I haven't offended anyone too much.   
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« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2007, 08:25:46 PM »

You touched on something very important.  When Adam was asked why he ate from the Tree he pointed at Eve and blamed her..and when God asked Eve she pointed at the serpent.  The serpent was the one who said yes it was me  laughing  What is wrong with this picture?  Eve came from Adam's rib. 

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« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2007, 09:01:44 PM »

"Lol", oh my bad, I meant rib, actually.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2007, 09:08:03 PM »

 Cheesy I figured if you knew that much that you knew that LOL  Welcome to SS Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2007, 10:36:40 PM »

Lol, your funny,lol.
Thank you for welcoming me, that was very thoughtful of you.  Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2007, 11:42:22 PM »

Can anyone say 4 minute delay?
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2007, 11:53:54 PM »

I use to believe that it was woman that came out of man, from a piece of his liver, and man was created from the earth soil.
But Our Father Adam, and our mother Eve disobeyed, and  took no responsibility for their own actions, and so they blamed the snake, and so the snake was cursed with them.
This is why our world is so fucked up.
This is why we have the problems that we do.
It's so easy to blame someone and let that innocent take the punishment.
Humanity was a mistake, what was the up man thinking?
Now we have our children in this world, and out of wet lock.
And all we do is think to ourselves, I fucked up, what was I thinking.
And we are not to blame, we didn't eat off that tree. It is unfair that we share the curse because Adam our father, and Eve our mother.
thee up man should have destroyed them, right then and there.
Kicking them out of the garden, oh yeah it punished them alright,
And yes they were miserable, cause they had to work their asses off.
But then they had kids. . . . .
"Maaaan", I'm so pissed, I don't even wanna  go any further.
But it's like here we are, and we are sufferring, struggling, trying to be strong and not give up on living.
Sometimes we tell ourselves, "fuck, I'm tired, when this all end".
Anyways , I hope I haven't offended anyone too much.   
Later.    Roll Eyes
You touched on something very important.  When Adam was asked why he ate from the Tree he pointed at Eve and blamed her..and when God asked Eve she pointed at the serpent.  The serpent was the one who said yes it was me  laughing  What is wrong with this picture?  Eve came from Adam's rib. 


sorry to in form you two,but that part of the bible was made up by man to mentaly supress women.christianity is a man made religion,no female god,no female angels,a female devil,......please!i dont buy that shit.i love you to the point that if hell is where all the women is thats where i wanna be.what strarght man wants to go to a heaven full of noting but men?that would be like to going to prison for 20yrs and saying "man i'm nott gonna have some type of sex till i get out".
 futhermore whats the use of doing all this stuff to get there when a simple thought can get you kicked out?


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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2007, 07:45:25 AM »

There are no women in heaven...you know how we know?   In revelations it says "When the Lamb broke the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour"  Now come on! If there were women in heaven..there would be no silence  laughing

Seriously, when the Bible was written it was a very patriarchal society.  It is still very much today a patriarchal society whether we want to admitt it or not.  Women were very respected in the bible and one of the most important people in the Bible is a female..Mary mother of Jesus. 
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2007, 09:40:06 AM »

There is no anything in Heaven. Constant silence because almost everything said upon the earth today is that which can be punished. Existance of Heaven is a dream, a wish that you will be able to rest in peace in a land of glory after death. But when you look at Mankind there isn't a single person on this earth that is worthy of such a place. And the ones that are, become corrupt at the evils of others.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2007, 05:25:59 PM »

There are no women in heaven...you know how we know?   In revelations it says "When the Lamb broke the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour"  Now come on! If there were women in heaven..there would be no silence  laughing

Seriously, when the Bible was written it was a very patriarchal society.  It is still very much today a patriarchal society whether we want to admitt it or not.  Women were very respected in the bible and one of the most important people in the Bible is a female..Mary mother of Jesus. 
Women, in a greater sense, weren't respected. And Mary mother of God is only respected because a guy couldn't have the baby! And I've been to many churches and I've never seen a priestess, a female minister or whatever in there. Women were supressed in Biblical days. And the story of Adam and Eve is another way of degreading women. If God created adam out of clay, or the earth's soil or whatever it was, why not just make Eve out of the same stuff? Because in Biblical days, women weren't respected. The Bible tels us that women are an offshoot of man, in this case, Eve being made from Adam's rib. This make males the 'supior being' if you like. It makes males seem like they should be in control of everything. And can you tell me the name of a single female prophet? Because I've never learnt about female prophets, or even heard about them
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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2007, 05:42:37 PM »

This is for the most part copy and paste Thammuz..I was too lazy to retype Tongue

There were many women who exhibited leadership in both the Old and New Testaments: Exodus 15:20: Miriam, the sister of Aaron was a prophetess and one of the triad of leaders of Israel during the Exodus from Egypt.

Judges 4 & 5: Deborah, a prophet-judge, headed the army of ancient Israel.

2 Kings 22:14; 2 Chronicles 34:22 Huldah, a prophet, verified the authenticity of the "Book of the Law of the Lord given through Moses." She triggered a religious renewal.

Acts 9:36 The author of Luke referred to a female disciple by her Aramaic name Tabitha, who was also known by her Greek name Dorcas. She became sick had died; Peter brought her back to life.

Acts 21:8: Philip the evangelist had four unmarried daughters who were prophets.

Philippians 4:2: Paul refers to two women, Euodia and Syntyche, as coworkers who were active evangelicals, spreading the gospel.

Romans 16:1: Paul refers to Phoebe as a minister (diakonos) of the church at Cenchrea. Some translations say deaconess; others try to obscure her position by mistranslating it as "servant" or "helper".

Romans 16:3: Paul refers to Priscilla as another of his "fellow workers in Christ Jesus" (NIV) Other translations refer to her as a "co-worker". But other translations attempt to downgrade her status by calling her a "helper". The original Greek word is "synergoi", which literally means "fellow worker" or "colleague." (7)

 Romans 16:7: Paul refers to a male apostle, Andronicus, and a female apostle, Junia, as "outstanding among the apostles" (NIV) The Amplified Bible translates this passage as "They are men held in high esteem among the apostles" The Revised Standard Version shows it as "they are men of note among the apostles". The reference to them both being men does not appear in the original Greek text. The word "men" was simply inserted by the translators, apparently because the translators' minds recoiled from the concept of a female apostle. Many translations, including the Amplified Bible, Rheims New Testament, New American Standard Bible, and the New International Version simply picked the letter "s" out of thin air, and converted the original "Junia" (a woman) into "Junias" (a man).

There were several mentions in the bible such as this one:The twenty-eighth verse in St. Paul's epistle says,

So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord, the church: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. (Eph 5:28-33)

Most liberal and mainline Christian denominations (e.g. Congregationalists, some Lutherans, the Presbyterian Church-USA, the United Church of Canada, United Church of Christ, United Methodist Church, etc.) ordain women and give them access to other positions of power. A study by the Hartford Seminary, 4 commented upon by the Boston Globe, 5 has examined the Christian denominations which do ordain women. The study shows that the number of clergywomen in 15 large Protestant denominations has skyrocketed over the past two decades. For example, between 1977 and 1997, female clergy:

 in the American Baptist Church has increased from 157 to 712;
 in the Episcopal Churches in the USA has increased from 94 to 1,394;
 in the United Methodist Church has gone from 319 to 3,003.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2007, 05:45:48 PM »

Woman made man , apprently before man tamperd with some ancient scriptures it twas the other way around man came from womans rib
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« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2007, 06:02:06 PM »

I was told that the story behind the rib was this(and I don't know if there is scripture to prove it but I doubt it) :  Adam's first mate was Lilith.  Lilith didn't obey Adam and was "contrary"..that is simplifying what I was told..i'm tired.  Anyway, God banished Lilith and decided to make Adam's next mate from his rib so she would be part of him and more subserviant to him.  That is what I was told Smiley
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