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« on: November 11, 2009, 11:43:25 AM »

I think believing in God/s, no matter what religion it or they are from, is ridiculous. You would think that people in this day and age would have more common sense than to follow blind faith when science can explain almost everything. But, I do see the flip side. People are scared. They need a scapegoat. And God is that scapegoat. It doesn't matter that you're going to die, because as long as you believe in him, you'll get a nice big comfy seat with God for all eternity, while your blaspheming family members are being tortured and killed in Hell forever. Sounds nice, doesn't it? God sure does sound like a lovely person to look up to. The biggest part of this, I think, is scare tactics. You have to believe mercilessly, or you'll be in a land of burning, torture, death, murder, lakes of fire and Satan for all of eternity. I mean, given that you were in church and this idea was only slightly pushed into your mind, any sheep would obviously choose Heaven over Hell. I mean, I would, if I thought either of them existed. But I have more sense than that, and I see religion for what it is. A nonsensical fairy tale created to control the masses for nothing other than profit. If you believe in God (we're mainly talking about the Christian one here, because I know it better than any others,) take a look at some of these questions:



If God sacrificed his only begotten son and allowed him to die upon the cross to take away the sins of the world, then why do we need baptism and church in general?

I might not be thinking in the right sense here, but if we no longer have sins because Jesus died to save us, why do we still need to be baptised? Why do we still need the word of God rammed down our throats day after day? It makes no sense.



If sin still exists in the world today, even though Jesus allegedly died for our sins, then doesn't that make his death a pointless and imperfect one and his father a rather sick and disturbed individual?

I mean, think about it for a second. He dies for our sins, yet they are all around us, every day of our lives. Doesn't it seem a bit pointless. He would have been better if he just fucking stayed in Heaven, I think.



Matthew 5:17-18 says quite clearly that Jesus demands Christians follow Old Testament law completely, to the smallest possible point. Why don’t they?

The modern Christian churches of the world tend to gloss the fact that God is a child killer—the 10th plague in Egypt—and say that Jesus set this right. Ignoring for a moment that the crucifixion is just one more child killing to fulfill God’s will, why does Jesus say he also will kill children in Revelation 2:23?

The Bible says the Earth is between 6,000 and 8,000 years old, that it was created in 7 days, and that Man is made of dirt and Woman a piece of Man. Most churches today say that this is allegory. What passages of the Bible support it all being just allegory?

Jesus said rich men don’t go to Heaven easily and even implied that it wasn’t possible. Why are so many people with money and property Christian if they are probably going to Hell?

The Bible of 400 CE and the Bible today differ by dozens of chapters and thousands of parts. Which Bible is the word of God and why does man edit it?

Even in this global age there are millions of persons who never hear the Good News. We are born in sin. Do some go to Hell just because of their birth circumstances?

Isn’t wearing the cross and making statues and movies of the life of the Christ a violation of the 2nd Commandment? “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image…”

Historians put the number of those killed and executed by Christian churches at between 2 and 15 million; mostly Jews, witches/pagans, and Muslims. Do Christians retain this murderous nature? If not, why not?

Jesus instructs the saved to love and to forgive even deadly insults (Matthew 5:44: “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,” et cetera). Why do no prominent Christian leaders to follow this?

Freedom to choose is given to man by God. Man has two main choices: 1) accept the Love of God and, upon death, go to paradise for eternity, 2) Refuse God and, upon death, just die, be utterly damned. How is that freedom of choice when it is the same thing as a gun to your head?

These are some things to seriously think about. But, there's more things to answer to, Christianity:


Is it not likely that had you been born in Cairo you would be a Muslim and, as 840 million people do, would believe that “there is no God but God and Muhammad is his prophet?

If you have been born in Calcutta would you not in all probability be a Hindu and, as 650 million people do, accept the Vedas and the Upanishads as sacred scriptures and hope sometime in the future to dwell in Nirvana?

Is it not probable that, had you been born in Jerusalem, you would be a Jew and, as some 13 million people do, believe that Yahweh is God and that the Torah is God’s Word?

Is it not likely that had you been born in Peking, you would be one of the millions who accept the teachings of the Buddha or Confucius or Lao-Tse and strive to follow their teachings and example?

Is it not likely that a Christian is a Christian because their parents were before them?

 If there is a loving God, why does he permit - much less create - earthquakes, droughts, floods, tornadoes, and other natural disasters which kill thousands of innocent men, women, and children every year?

How can a loving, omnipotent God permit - much less create - encephalitis, cerebral palsy, brain cancer, leprosy, Alzheimer’s, and other incurable illnesses to afflict millions of men, women, and children, most of whom are decent people?

How could a loving Heavenly Father create an endless Hell and, over the centuries, consign millions of people to it because they do not or cannot or will not accept certain religious beliefs?  And, having done so, how could he torment them forever?

Why are there literally hundreds of Christian denominations and independent congregations, all of them basing their beliefs on the Bible, and most of them convinced that all the others are, in some ways, wrong?

If all Christians worship the same God, why can they not put aside their theological differences and co-operate actively with one another?

If God is a loving Father, why does he so seldom answer his needy children’s prayers?

How can one believe the biblical account of the creation of the world in six days when every eminent physicist agrees that all living species have evolved over millions of years from primitive beginnings?

Is it possible for an intelligent man or woman to believe that God fashioned the first male human being from a handful of dust and the first woman from one of the man’s ribs?

Is it possible to believe that the Creator of the universe would personally impregnate a Palestinian virgin in order to facilitate getting his Son into the world as a man?

The Bible says that “the Lord thy God is a jealous God.”  But if you are omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, eternal, and the creator of all that exists, of whom could you possibly be jealous?

Why, in a world filled with suffering and starvation, do Christians spend millions on cathedrals and sanctuaries and relatively little on aid to the poor and the needy?

Why does the omnipotent God, knowing that there are tens of thousands of men, women, and children starving to death in a parched land, simply let them waste away and die when all that is needed is rain?

Why would the Father of all mankind have a Chosen People and favor them over the other nations on earth?

Why would God who is “no respecter of persons” prohibit adultery and then bless, honour, and allow to prosper a king who had seven hundred wives and three hundred concubines?

Why is the largest Christian church controlled entirely by men, with no woman - no matter how pious or gifted - permitted to become a priest, a monsignor, a bishop, an archbishop, a cardinal, or a pope?

Jesus’ last words to his followers were “Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel to every creature.  And, lo, I am with you always.”  But, despite this and to this date - some two thousand years later - billions of men and women have never so much as heard the Christian Gospel.  Why?

 

While many of these seem like they should be simple for a Christian to answer, I have yet to hear a decent one. All they can spew is Bible verse after Bible verse, completely taken out of context, because they know, deep down, that what they believe in is a fucking lie. They're only kidding themselves, and each other. While they answer for the holocaust, the inquisitions, the witch trials and the merciless killings of countless Muslims and Jews, I'll sit back and laugh at them calling me the sinner. Hypocrites.
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2009, 12:11:48 PM »

Aww did my Buddha comment strike a nerve?
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2009, 12:19:32 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2009, 12:19:50 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2009, 12:23:19 PM »

If you go to CR, you'll see that before you even made that post, I had explained what this was basically about.  Tongue

New Yorker told me I was a sinner, and it pissed me off.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 04:58:24 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 05:00:41 PM »

Also, I read it all. I had the urge to send it to my grandma look around
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2009, 05:36:20 PM »

Who's New Yorker


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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 05:40:30 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2009, 11:21:26 PM »

LOL. It's a person from New York.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2009, 12:41:34 PM »

mmk so back on to "god" IT is nothing mmore then a dreamed up ghost that everybody is afraid of....you know what i say

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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2009, 05:53:47 PM »

Ha, moron capitalizes god.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2009, 07:00:23 PM »

The heart of religion is Mysticism.

All those experiences are tied with our inner self. The ancient monotheism use to apply all characteristics to one god.. in that way all that is good and bad comes from one god... the division between good and evil is something new: almost 2000 years, while the basic conception has more than 5000 years

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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2009, 12:59:08 PM »

Ha, moron capitalizes god.
Yeah, the way it should be. :O
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Self-importance is man's greatest enemy. What weakens him is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of his fellow men. Self-importance requires that one spend most of one's life offended by something or someone.
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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.
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